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lumii · Jun 06, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

I want to change my fire storm into a meteor shower. But u cant buy that skill, so has any1 an idea where to find it in factions?

xb0vv · Jun 06, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

u can buy it mate, do the chaos in kryta quest in keineng city and it takes u to lions arch. If the skill isnt in lions arch then get a run to droks or something

Vahn Roi · Jun 06, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46

...that's assuming he has Prophecies.

lumii · Jun 06, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03

Well i dun have prophecies, so i cant buy it?

Neriandal Freit · Jun 06, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

Fraid not. There are 'Core Skills' and then you've got 'Prophecy' Skills and 'Faction' skills that will only be aviable if you own those games.

The Great Al · Jun 06, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

buy prophecies, its a great game

lumii · Jun 06, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Lol

I wish i that i bought it when it came out though... But you guys sure that ther aint a boss in factions that had MS?

Francis Crawford · Jun 06, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14

Argo has a monster skill that's a lot like Meteor Shower, but that doesn't help.

Pick Me · Jun 06, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Sorry, but there is no such spell in Factions called Meteor Shower.

The best thing you have is Meteor, at least you can buy that.

Meteor Shower is not an elite, so if you can't buy it, which you can't, then you can't cap it either.

I'm sure you can still buy Prophecies. Stores do carry them, and you can still buy them online.

Evilsod · Jun 06, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55

That really is low beyond low... Sorry but Anet are just f*cking pathetic for doing that. Meteor Shower is the basic PvE skill a fire ele is asked to carry (at least in Prophecies anyway) and they decide to limit it to only people who own Prophecies? There are about 300 other completely useless Ele skills out there, and they limit the 1 you really need and decide to give you the most useless 1 in the game?

Neriandal Freit · Jun 06, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

That really is low beyond low... Sorry but Anet are just f*cking pathetic for doing that. Meteor Shower is the basic PvE skill a fire ele is asked to carry (at least in Prophecies anyway) and they decide to limit it to only people who own Prophecies? There are about 300 other completely useless Ele skills out there, and they limit the 1 you really need and decide to give you the most useless 1 in the game?

Oh Evil, get over your self. You know that this is a game and doing this helps to encourage the purchasing of other games and also it tells other players who play and buy all the game, making them 'stand out'.

I like how they're doing that, and if you dont (and anyone else) you need to get over it, cause it will continue to happen. If you dont get over it, then get over Guildwars.

2ndName · Jun 07, 2006, 12:04 AM // 00:04

I agree with neriandal.

Anet does not ask us to pay monthly but they offer different skills and extras with every exp.

If they were to give us everything in every expansion, then it beats the purpose of people making purhcases for upcoming expansions.

Nonetheless, Meteor Shower...owns.

Luciora · Jun 07, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

I have to agree with both Neriandal and 2ndName... Why do you think they gave us the option of travelling between Tyria and Cantha then?

It sucks to have to go look for the skill, but saving up just a little and getting runs to the required spots is not so bad.

lumii · Jun 07, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20

Thanks guys

Maybe i'll buy prophecies anyway, cuz i like factions alot and i heard that prophecies is better so...

Robin_Anadri · Jun 07, 2006, 06:22 PM // 18:22

If you like factions, you'll be absolutely blown away by Prophecies.

Advice: when you get to Lion's Arch, get somebody to run you to Ascalon City and start the missions from there, starting with Great Northern Wall. Things will make a lot more sense if you do it that way.

Pick Me · Jun 07, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Once you get Prophecies, create a new character. Its worthless to take a Canthas character all the way back to Ascolon city. Reason is:
1) no normal quests available to you before Lion's Arch in Tyria
2) You are level 20 (or there abouts) so monsters back in Ascolong City mean nothing to you
3) Meteor Shower is in a village north of Lion's Arch (I think its called Ascolon Settlement - Captain Greywind is the guy there I think). So don't bother going backwards.

So create a new character in Tyria (the way the games were supposed to be done) and travel your way around. You get to see what troubles the Tyrian's have and you get to know your way around the whole map (go questing).

Elite caping starts off in the desert of Tyria, which is far, far away from Lion's Arch (about 5 or 6 major city missions away).

Once you get Prophecies, create a character, and travel through the tutorial/pre-seering missions (you can't skip this unfortunately). Once you finish with that, then the fun begins.

Just take a look at the map (after the tutorial) and you'll see how wonderous Prophecies is (or take you Cantha's character to Lion's Arch and see the map).

Evilsod · Jun 07, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Bullshit, theres a difference between taking out skills that are for specific builds and taking out skills that are the general purpose of a fire ele in PvE. Honestly who the hell is gonna miss Firestorm? More to the point, who the hell is gonna USE firestorm once they notice that it scatters everything that was just (carefully?) agroed onto your Warrior? At least Meteor Shower did some damage. Its a core skill imo, not a Prophecies skill.

Pick Me · Jun 07, 2006, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Bullshit, theres a difference between taking out skills that are for specific builds and taking out skills that are the general purpose of a fire ele in PvE. Honestly who the hell is gonna miss Firestorm? More to the point, who the hell is gonna USE firestorm once they notice that it scatters everything that was just (carefully?) agroed onto your Warrior? At least Meteor Shower did some damage. Its a core skill imo, not a Prophecies skill.

I think that was the point ANet was doing. Take the most basic (most used and possibly the best AoE skill in the game) and make it into a Prophecies only spell. So if people want it, you must get it from Tyria. Those who want an Elementalist from Canthas, but travel back into Tyria to get it. Prior to people finding out about Meteor Shower, people loved using Firestorm. Then MS showed up in the later part of the game (about midway really) and people dropped FS like a rock (or kept it only after MS was cast). Then, the patch that changed the AI came into effect. Now no one has FS because of the AI, and the lack of damage it does.

This becomes a what if scenario, if you didn't have MS, and still had the new AI, would people still use FS? I know I wouldn't, only because of the AI.

Evilsod · Jun 07, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

I think that was the point ANet was doing. Take the most basic (most used and possibly the best AoE skill in the game) and make it into a Prophecies only spell. So if people want it, you must get it from Tyria. Those who want an Elementalist from Canthas, but travel back into Tyria to get it. Prior to people finding out about Meteor Shower, people loved using Firestorm. Then MS showed up in the later part of the game (about midway really) and people dropped FS like a rock (or kept it only after MS was cast). Then, the patch that changed the AI came into effect. Now no one has FS because of the AI, and the lack of damage it does.

This becomes a what if scenario, if you didn't have MS, and still had the new AI, would people still use FS? I know I wouldn't, only because of the AI.

Exactly... they knew an ele would need this skill, so they made it a Prophecies skill just to make them buy it. If people don't want your game because it sucks, they shouldn't have to buy it just because they've made a vital skill specific to that campaign. The moment they start doing that i begin to wonder whether they care more about the quality of there games or more about the number they sell.

Neriandal Freit · Jun 08, 2006, 03:40 AM // 03:40

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Exactly... they knew an ele would need this skill, so they made it a Prophecies skill just to make them buy it. If people don't want your game because it sucks, they shouldn't have to buy it just because they've made a vital skill specific to that campaign. The moment they start doing that i begin to wonder whether they care more about the quality of there games or more about the number they sell.

It's both Evil and you know that. It's all apart of keeping people interested and wanting things. They keep things active and keep things free for us, but you want one of the best skills aviable to any and all players? No. One of the best skills should be used by the most involved players who play the game and not spam it.

Edit: And mind you, as my avatar shows, I play a Elementalist. I LIKE having skills only aviable from certain Chapters. As I said before, if you dont like this, maybe Guildwars isn't for you after all